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Butte Valley POP president responds to Siskiyou Co. Supervisor Dist. 1 Jim Cook’s letter

Butte Valley POP, Siskiyou County, Wolves

September 20, 2012

To Jim Cook,

In response to your insulting and disgraceful letter, perhaps you should change your vocation and think about becoming a preschooler teacher, and with more advancement you may even become a kindergarten teacher to tell your students fairy tales and fables, rather than we, the people. Who knows, you could even get a job studying wolves behind your wood pile.

Maybe you could also get a trail camera and find yourself.

It seems to me you don’t give a damn about some of us citizens who are true Americans who love and care for our country.

Do you now see why you lost the last election by a large margin? Folks do not want fence straddlers representing us.  They could end up with some very painful splinters and also get voted out of office.

We feel Brandon Criss will be an excellent supervisor who will listen to us and be decisive, and evidently many of the folks in your district feel the same way.

For your information, we are way ahead of your belated advice and suggestions.  We contacted our Senator’s office, Sheriff and others months ago.  We have also obtained information from other states that have been having wolf problems.  If you had taken the time to study what is going on in other states how wolves have hurt their economy, you may have given it some thought before sending us a fairy tale letter.

It is a big relief knowing we are getting Brandon Criss to take your place.  He is someone who will not think we are so stupid that we are looking for Little Red Riding Hood skipping through the woods, and won’t be telling us fairy tales about the big bad wolf.

Thank you so much for all your support and for your confidence in the people in the Dorris area.

Bert Holzhauser,

President of POP (Protect Our Property)

P.O. Box 7

Dorris, Calif. 96023

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Siskiyou Dist. 1 Supervisor Jim Cook sticks his foot in his mouth

Butte Valley POP, Siskiyou County

siskiyou supervisor Jim Cook insults ranchers on wolves ranchers respond 092012

http://www.klamathbasincrisis.org/wolves/2012/supinsultsranchers_ranchersrespond092012.htm

Soon-to-be former Siskiyou Supervisor insults ranchers of “big bad wolf hysteria”, preceded by response by local ranchers

9/20/12

Letter by Dorris rancher Shirl Woodson in response to Siskiyou Supervisor Jim Cook’s letter below:

Obviously this really angers me, the farmers, ranchers and citizens of Dorris who belong to the Protect Our Property group must all be a bunch of stupid bumpkins who are delusional as well as ‘hysterical’. Too bad Jim is ill informed of all of our efforts to date. Perhaps if our meetings would be attended by members of our board of supervisors they would know what we have done to date, (including the reams of research materials and instructions for pro-activity we have compiled for attendees). We’ve been averaging 50 or more attendees at our meeting and we sure aren’t exchanging news about the weather. These meetings are not about telling sad tales about imaginary wolves, they are about laying out a proactive plan. We were told yesterday 3 of the board (members) would be attending “a meeting” out of town tomorrow thereby not able to attend ours tomorrow night, I guess that in addition to being ‘hysterical’ I can’t count either, I think we have more than 3 on the board of supervisors. And…obviously they were afraid to identify what type of meeting that they were to attend lest we become even more hysterical – attached is my “mythical” wolf print taken last thurs. I am happy to say that our meetings have been regularly attended by Sheriff Lopey, Erin Ryan from Doug LaMalfa’s office, citizens from Scott Valley, citizens from Klamath & Modoc Counties and members of various police departments as well as members of Basin media. I left the BOS meeting yesterday feeling good that our board was looking out for our interests. Today that feeling has been washed away by this very unprofessional and somewhat childish letter by a man who was voted into office by the very citizens he lam-basts. I am quite disturbed about the tone of Cook’s letter, obviously my vote was misplaced in the election that put him in office originally. It is my hope that instead of seeing us as the enemy, Mr. Cook calmly work with us and leave his childish references in a book of fairy tales. You not only insulted the people you represent, but other members of the Board of Supervisors.

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To Mr. Cook from Molly Young:

Dear Mr. Cook,

I just received your e-mail and find your comments to be very out-of touch with reality or perhaps the CA. Fish and Game are giving you their spin. I only know of a couple of wolf sightings in the Butte Valley and surrounding area, not Dorris, per se, around the time that the media wolf was traveling through. Although there are no photos of the existing animal, there are photographed wolf footprints in snow or in mud. I have not yet seen any hysterical people running around!

However, we HAVE developed a non-profit community organization called P.O.P. (Protect Our Property), P.O.Box 7, Dorris, CA. 96023, to fight the proposal that has been presented by various environmental groups based in Portland, OR.,to give wolves CA.ESA protection. The Butte Valley community support has been very strong against ESA status.

From many studies made on the wolf and it’s affect on rural communities, perhaps the most enlightening one you could read is the Catron County, New Mexico, Non- essential Wolf Reintroduction Program, updated in 2012. A book I would suggest is “Yellowstone Wolves, A Chronicle of the Animal, the People, and the Politics” by Cat Urbigkit.

I also note that you say the wolves are a threat to the ranchers running stock in the outlying hills and on Forest Service grounds. That’s a given, but surely you didn’t mean the outlying hills in the Butte Valley area?

Mollie Young

youngdes@cot.net

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Letter to ranchers by Siskiyou Supervisor Jim Cook 9/19/12

The big bad wolf hysteria continues in the Dorris area. Are wolves a threat to ranchers running stock in outlying hills and on Forest service ground, of course they are. Should they be encouraged to establish packs in No. Cal or S. Ore, of course not. Are there wolves hiding behind every wood pile in Dorris, doubtful. So what can we do?

First of all PROVE there are more than one wolf in our area and not just in Plumas County. I spoke with a representative of the Ca. Fish and Game and they are willing to LOAN a trail camera to ranchers who continue to see mythic wolves in the Dorris area. They will hand the camera to you, show you how to use it and you can put it where the mythical wolves have been reported. You get to review the photos first before you show them to the CDFG so the agency can’t be accused of any hanky-panky.

Second, write the Fish and Game Commission, use the science that the County has put in our letter so it isn’t just whining.

Attend and speak at the Fish and Game Commission meeting on the October the 3rd or 4th if the petition is heard then as planned (The County testified at the Fisher listing hearing and we made a difference, We testified at the dog hunting hearing, and we were the only County to do so)

But DO NOT WAIT FOR THE HEARING, the decision may have already been made in their minds. Meet with your State Senator and Assemblyman and ask them to give you specific actions to take, as well has how to talk to the people who will actually be making the decision now! Not later.

Read the Department of Fish and Games petition evaluation so you know what is happening. https://nrm.dfg.ca.gov/FileHandler.ashx?DocumentID=54322&inline=1

For your information the Board has been actively opposing wolf pack establishment in Siskiyou County. I have met with the local and the California State Farm Bureau in Sacramento and discussed strategy, including legal options. I have met with the California Cattlemen’s Association in Sacramento to discuss lobbying and legal strategies. I have met with lobbyist and staff in Sacramento to oppose the candidate status listing.

On Thursday I will NOT be in Dorris for the wolf information meeting, instead I will at a conference meeting with Tehama, Lassen, Plumas, and Modoc Supervisors to develop a strategy to oppose wolf pack establishment coordinating with Farm Bureau and Cattlemen’s. I feel a collaboration of rural counties and livestock associations will be more effective than just sending a letter. I have contacted Fred Kelly Grant concerning coordination if the petition to make wolves a candidate species is passed. We are closely monitoring the results on DNA testing of museum samples to see how that may affect a candidate listing. The Board plans to be at the Commission hearing to testify.

So anyone who says the Board of Supervisor’s isn’t doing anything can put on their red riding hood and go skip in the woods.

Jim

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This information and much more that you need to know about the ESA,
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Butte Valley POP meeting 9-20-12

Butte Valley POP, Wolves

Next meeting is

Thursday, Sept. 20, 2012

6 p.m.

Dorris City Hall

Wolf expert John Williams will speak.

Williams is an OSU Wallowa county extension agent who will have a slide presentation and discussion on the dire conditions in dealing with introduced wolves.

Below is a video from Wallowa Co. about the wolves and their damage, including John Williams, interviews with ranchers and Fred Steen, Wallowa Co. Sheriff.

The County Sheriff considers each kill as a “crime scene.”  And the loss of livestock as destruction of private property.

 Oregon Wolf Education video –

http://www.oregonwolfeducation.org/

 

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Butte Valley Protect Our Property meets 9-20-12

Butte Valley POP, Wolves

There will be a meeting in Dorris this coming week on Thursday, Sept. 20 at 6 PM

Dorris City Hall

John Williams OSU County Extension Agent     from will have a slide presentation and discuss the dire conditions in dealing with introduced wolves.

http://vimeo.com/34089194

Click the above link for a video suggested by John Williams

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Butte Valley POP will meet at 6 p.m.

Butte Valley POP

Correction on the time for the

Butte Valley Protect Our Property meeting

Tuesday, Spet. 11, 2012

it is

6 p.m.

at the Dorris City Hall.

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Butte Valley Propect Our Property

Butte Valley POP

Next meeting

Tuesday, Sept. 11, 2012

6 p.m. (This has been fixed.)

Dorris City Hall

* Discuss wolf issue – Fish and Game Commission is considering the Petition to list the gray wolf (Canadian) to California Endangered Species Act.

* Questions and Answers on property rights

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