Mar 24, 2013
Mr. Neil Manji
Director Region 1
601 Locust St.
Redding, CA 96001
March 22, 2013
RE: POW participation in Normandeau Project.
CC: Director Charles Bonham, Senator J. Nielsen, Assemblyman B. Dalhe,
Congressman D. LaMalfa, Congressman T. McClintock, Governor J. Brown, Sheriff Jon Lopey, District Attorney K. Andrus, KSYC News
Dear Mr. Manji,
In November and December of 2012, six public workshops were held in Siskiyou County in order to justify the development of instream flow studies of the Scott and Shasta Rivers. These meetings were conducted by Normandeau and Associates at a cost to the taxpayers of approximately $200,000 dollars.
First of all, your Department has retained Normandeau, using public monies, under false pretenses. Your Department announced at the first Public meeting that CDFG was required to study flow under Public Resources Code 10000 -10005. Since both the Scott and Shasta are fully adjudicated watersheds and no further water rights are possible, you have knowingly and willingly misstated the facts and the requirements for your project. The ten thousand codes are meant to be used when someone has applied for an additional water right. No further rights are possible in a fully adjudicated system.
Use of public money to perpetrate a fraud is poor judgment on your part, as well as a misuse of public funds. This may possibly be a crime.
Second, your Department claims the reason for this project, is that low flow in the above mentioned rivers is the reason for the continued decline and possible extinction of the Coho Salmon, a threatened species. This claim is simply not true. Odd that Fish and Game would choose to tell a lie, which is so easily verified.
However, since by all accounts, even the Department’s own statistics, this is a record year for Salmon returns and next year is likely to be as good or better, one can only wonder what the true motives of CDFG are. Certainly telling the truth and dealing honestly with people are not among those motives. Once again, deliberately telling falsehoods to the public in order to achieve and end is poor ethic at best, and at worst is also a crime.
We can only surmise from the process, the end, which Normandeau hoped to achieve, on behalf of CDFG, was to marginalize property owners, water right owners, and taxpayers in order to construct a group of so called “stakeholders” who would agree with the end agenda of CDFG.
We also surmise from your behavior that your agenda is once again to insinuate your Department into Surface Water rights. You have been sued twice already for much the same thing. You have lost both times. Does your department have so little regard for the people you are supposed to serve that the waste of taxpayers’ money means nothing to you?
POW and others who attended your meetings were shocked to see your political bar graph, upon which property owners were shown to be near to the bottom of the list of importance in your “stakeholders” chart.
The Delphic technique, which Normandeau employs is typically used to identify political opposition to a given project and not for true scientific research. We the people are insulted by the behavior of you, your Department and of Normandeau.
It is so typical of CDFG to give groups who are never impacted by the consequences of your action more priority than those who are your obvious targets. KS Wild and Center for Biological Diversity are not more important than the people who own the property in question. These groups have nothing to lose by your lack of judgment and your poor ethics. We property owners, on the other hand, have everything to lose and yet you do not consider the impact to people at all.
You also refuse to acknowledge Ocean Conditions, over fishing, tribal take or any of the impacts which may affect the fish, you claim, are near to extinction.
In Closing, no we will not participate in your illegal and fraudulent project.
No, we will not cooperate with you or Normandeau in any way except incident to gathering evidence with which you, your Department and Normandeau may incriminate yourselves.
We will not give you access to our property or to our equipment.
In short we will never cooperate in any way with liars and criminals. We will not do this because, what you are doing is wrong and no possible good can come to our members from any cooperation we give you.
Cooperation to CDFG means you want to take something which you have no right to take. We will fight you with all the means at our disposal to ensure that we maintain our Constitutional Right to property and the liberty to use our property to better the lives of our families.
Mr. Manji, you admitted to me in front of witnesses that you are willing to spend whatever monies are necessary to maintain even a small population of Coho in recognition that the Scott and Shasta are the Southern fringe of their range.
Your own Fish and Game Bulletin No. 34 shows us that all of the money and all of your wasted time and effort have not done one single thing to change a coastal spawning fish into something that it is not.
Shame on the Department of Fish and Game for wasting the hard-earned money of California Taxpayers at a time when we have no such funds to waste.
Shame on Normandeau for helping to attempt to perpetrate this fraud.
I suggest that you review your oath of office.
You may also be interested to review Title 18 sections 241 and 242 of the US Code as well as Title 42 Section 1983. While you are at it, Article 1 section 1 of the Constitution of California may be of interest.
Vice President Scott Valley Protect Our Water
Fort Jones, California
Feb 11, 2013
To whom it may concern:
Thank you all for opening this discussion to the public. Lack of public input is one of the problems of the KBRA/KHSA from the beginning. The fact that the removal of dams downstream of the basin was a precondition of inclusion is indicative of the subversive nature of these so called agreements.
79.9 percent of the people of Siskiyou County are against these illegal agreements.
These agreements will not serve any environmental purpose. Purchasing the Klamath Tribe a 92,000 acre property will do the Coho Salmon no good. This is the environmental scam of the century in which special interest groups will pocket over one billion in taxpayers money.
The economic devastation to property owners on the lakes and the river is already being felt. 70,000 homes and ranches are served by the clean energy supplied by the Klamath Dams.
This is nothing more than environmental extortion. Please do the right thing for the taxpayers. There are other ways to settle water issues in the basin with out ruining the lives and property of the residents of Siskiyou County.
Jan 24, 2013
Siskiyou Under Siege: Buffalo Broadcasting News Service
Broadcast on KSYC 103.9 FM
Jan. 22, 2013
On Monday, Jan. 21, 2013, The Nature Conservancy held a Field Day in order to explain their reason and proposed methods under which the Conservancy could alter adjudication for the Water Rights they hold.
The reason the Conservancy wants to do this is to allegedly “save” the Chinook salmon. Remember the Chinook salmon are not Endangered, in addition, to this Siskiyou County is experiencing record runs of Chinook salmon with over 29,000 returning to the Shasta river this year.
The Nature Conservancy purchased property in the Shasta Valley, consisting of the former Nelson Ranch, as well as the Shasta-Big Springs Ranch.
Local landowners and Water Right owners are naturally skeptical of the Conservancy’s motives. The Nature Conservancy wishes to obtain a 1707 Permit from the California Department of Water Resources in order to have fish and wildlife declared a “beneficial use” under the adjudication, which affect the Water Right owners of the Shasta Valley.
In the opinion of many ranchers, this is a dangerous precedent in light of recent attempts by the California Department of Fish and Game to gain control of surface Water Rights in Siskiyou County.
There are several problems in the process, which came to light during the Field Trip.
How will The Nature Conservancy shepherd this water past other Water Right owners, who have a right to fulfill their quota with water which is not used by an upstream right holder?
There is no way to maintain physical custody of water moving down a watercourse.
Big Springs water is high in boron, which is harmful to fish.
Is it better to irrigate with the water and grow crops; or let it simply go down river?
If The Nature Conservancy truly is acting altruistically, why do they simply not take the water to begin with instead of setting precedence in the water adjudications of Siskiyou County?
Who will pay for all of their equipment, maintenance, personnel required to see that this water is NOT USED for any human purpose on its way to the Klamath?
Water code and the adjudication state that NO other users can be harmed in the 1707 process.
Is the Siskiyou Co. Water Master District subjecting itself to liability if someone is harmed in this process?
Will all the users see higher fees if legal action ensues?
Water users are already paying to maintain flow gauges, which have nothing to do with water diversion.
Many will wonder – is this simply more of the same? A large percentage of the water users in the county do not trust The Nature Conservancy’s motives or methods.
Last, but not least, in 2016 California Dept. of Fish and Game will be in a position of POWER over The Nature Conservancy property and water. This is a result of the terms of the $10 million dollar Conservation Easement, which The Conservancy signed with CDFG.
CDFG also has the first right of refusal should The Conservancy decide to sell the property. Local agricultural interests may then be trading one with whom they can cooperate – for an agency, which has proven itself time and time again to be without integrity or truth!
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Nov 27, 2012
Dear Mr. Milliron & Mr. Manji:
You took an oath of office to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies both foreign and domestic. It seems that you have abandoned that oath.
Please read the Federal Code of Regulations Title 18 section 241 and 242. After which read Title 42 section 1983.
The Scott River is an Adjudicated Watershed.
In addition to which most of the Tributaries are pre 1914 water rights. A good many of them are pre 1870 (before California had a Constitution).
The answers to the problems you claim are easy. We have known the answers for years.
Build a 20-30 thousand acre foot water storage facility at the Callahan end of Scott Valley to regulate and enhance late season flow.
Rebuild the 39 in stream flow maintenance structures at all the high lakes. Allow proper forest management to control transpiration and sublimation. That would put more water in the River for everyone including the fish you pretend to care so much for.
Stop trying to take property which does not belong to you and over which you have no jurisdiction.
The reason we do not trust you or your agency is that the first thing you and your people do is lie every single time you stand before us.
It will not work! EVER! Stop the lies and begin to tell the truth.
The dynamic will never change in this watershed until you and your agency change the way you do business.
Remember I heard you say, in a public meeting with witnesses, that “the fish can’t wait for the Constitution”.
That is a breach of your oath in and of itself.
We are just waiting for the right time to use this and a plethora of other information against you and your crooked agency until the timing is right for us. It might just be time to try the truth, what could it hurt you to try?
Protect Our Water
Nov 17, 2012
NO!!!! In Fort Jones they were barely able to get through three slides . We will not cooperate, collaborate, participate, or allow anyone from Cal Pile. Are there still people out there who honestly think we have anything what so ever to gain from association with these liars and thieves?
ONE HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE LANDOWNERS AT THE FORT JONES MEETING ABSOLUTELY OPPOSE ANY AND ALL EFFORTS WHICH INVOLVE CDFG OR AS WE CALL THEM CAL-PILE.
THE EXPENSIVE SURROGATES WHOM CAL PILE HAS HIRED TO ATTEMPT TO MAKE THIS ANAL SURGERY MORE PALATABLE TO US COUNTRY BUMPKINS STATED THAT CAL PILE IS UNDER NO OBLIGATION WHAT SO EVER TO ADOPT ANY STUDY OR RECOMMENDATION WHICH COMES FROM THIS.
CURTIS MILRON LOST HIS TEMPER AND BLURTED OUT THAT CAL-PILE CAN GO TO COURT AND TAKE WHAT THEY WANT OR WE CAN NEGOTIATE AWAY SOME OF OUR RIGHTS WITH FEES OF COURSE.
THIS IS NOTHING MORE THAN ANOTHER WATERSHED WIDE PROGRAM. (Like the one we fought in 2010 brought on by DFG.)
PROGRAMS WHICH ARE ENTERED INTO WITH A STATE OR LEAD AGENCY TRIGGER CEQA, ANYTHING THAT REQUIRES CEQA TRIGGERS AN ITP.
WAKE UP EVERYONE. POLITE APPLAUSE AND COWARDLY COOPERATION WILL LEAD TO OUR DESTRUCTION.
MY CLOSING STATEMENT TO NEIL MANJI’S FACE BEFORE WE WALKED OUT ON OUR MEETING.
SPEAKING TO MANJI, “YOU AND EVERYONE IN YOUR AGENCY ARE LIARS, CHEATS, AND THIEVES. WE WILL NOT SUBMIT, WE WILL FIGHT TO PROTECT OUR PROPERTY AND OUR LIBERTY TO USE OUR PROPERTY TO BETTER THE LIVES OF OUR FAMILIES. WE WILL FIGHT.”
MANJI’S RESPONE????? SILENCE!!!!!!!!!!!
WAKE UP FOLKS, THE LIARS AT CAL-PILE WANT YOUR MONEY AND YOUR PROPERTY. THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FISH AND IT NEVER DID.
WHO DO YOU EXPECT TO STAND UP FOR YOU WHEN YOU ARE UNWILLING TO STAND UP FOR YOURSELVES?
Oct 22, 2012
This program is illegal and unconstitutional and is simply another attempt by yet another agency to gain money and power.
Do people who irrigate their lawns in Los Angeles need permits?
Is there a presumption of guilt which necessitates
the permit to discharge waste from every water user in the water shed?
Where is the historical evidence to suggest that any one of us is discharging waste at any given moment. Are we discharging waste all year round, even though we do not receive water for more than a couple of months?
Is rain considered a non-point source pollution now?
Do all of the Tar and Gravel roofs of all of the factories in California have a permit to discharge the rain water which falls upon their properties?
Do all of the people of California have permits for that matter?
The Fourteenth Amendment guarantees us equal protection under the law. Where in the Constitution does the State have permission to control land which it does not own through a ranch management plan, which by its very existence invites scrutiny and possible modification or disapproval by some appointed body.
Sounds like Communism to me.
Here is my ranch management plan: I will do whatever I want on the property, which I own and pay for.
I WILL NOT SUBMIT, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!
I will not obtain this illegal permit to farm. Nor will I submit any ranch management plan to anyone EVER!!!
Fort Jones, CA.
Oct 22, 2012
October 22, 2012
News in Jefferson Country on KSYC 103.9 FM radio, Yreka, CA.
From Jefferson News Service Editor Liz Bowen
Scott Valley Protect Our Water is once again telling a state agency NO as the Regional Water Quality Control Board is moving forward with an ambiguous discharge Permit that will affect agricultural lands.
Mark Baird, vice president of Scott Valley POW, short for Protect Our Water, asked why the permit only affects farmers and ranchers?
The way the program reads, anyone could have a potential waste discharge — even urban residents with lawns. Under the Fourteenth Amendment, equal protection under the law is guaranteed. All land owners are encouraged to attend the next meeting by employees of the Regional Water Quality Control Board and voice opposition.
The meeting is Wednesday, October 24th at the new Forest Service office at 1711 Main Street in Yreka. Time is 8:30 a.m.
Jefferson News Service preparedness tip today – pick up an extra bottle of chile powder spice.
May 18, 2012
Surprise surprise! The Tucker Hillman Tribe’s fake environmental group is filing suit against another economic engine in Siskiyou County. The Tucker Hillman tribe intends to join the suit as well.
What a joke.
Look up the Klamath River Keeper website. The felon Grant Leaf Hillman is the President of the Riverkeepers. The Greencorp Socialist S. Craig Tucker is on the Board of the Riverkeepers.
Peter Brucker of the Salmon River Pot Growers Association, trustee of the Black Bear Commune, is also on the Board. Erica Terrance of Black Bear Commune, is also a player in this environmental scam.
Wake up folks, or the joke will be on you. It is time to start turning up the heat on the Tucker Hillman tribe through the BIA.
Perhaps we should boycott all tribal businesses until the crooks are gone.
Time to start a protest of the Hillman tribe’s plan to build a casino off reservation! Think what trouble Hillman and Tucker could get into with casino profits?
A forensic audit of all of the Tribe’s grants since Hillman took over might be interesting. Jim Wadell statements should be investigated as well.
Tucker said in a Groundwater meeting, the reason the Tucker Hillman Tribe wants to get the Coho numbers up is so they can get a cannery and then they can start killing Coho. There were eye witnesses to this statement.
Quite the protector of the environment isn’t he?
When will the honest, hardworking members of the Karuk Tribe kick these crooks out?
When will the Shasta Nation challenge the fraud of Treaty R/ Treaty Q through which the Tucker Hillman tribe got its recognition. Who says crime does not pay?
Vice President Scott Valley Protect Our Water